Comments on: If you want to learn, embrace uncertainty http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/ Just another WordPress weblog Thu, 20 Nov 2008 07:41:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Jenny and Erin — a tongue-in-cheek quest for understanding… http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-30005 Jenny and Erin — a tongue-in-cheek quest for understanding… Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:19:10 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-30005 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] I think it is a good thing. Mainly because of the idea that uncertainty enables growth. [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] I think it is a good thing. Mainly because of the idea that uncertainty enables growth. [...]

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]]> By: Mark http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2144 Mark Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:54:04 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2144 I find it interesting that homeostasis is a process aimed at maintaining the status quo. A dynamic process trying to maintain a static state. And yet most forms of exercise geared towards growth distupt that state. Could it be that both mental and physical development require upsetting our internal balance in order to grow? (Note: It's not technically correct to say that Homeostatis aims to maintain a static state. It's a process which keeps the variables of a system's internal state within tolerable limits.) I find it interesting that homeostasis is a process aimed at maintaining the status quo. A dynamic process trying to maintain a static state. And yet most forms of exercise geared towards growth distupt that state. Could it be that both mental and physical development require upsetting our internal balance in order to grow?

(Note: It’s not technically correct to say that Homeostatis aims to maintain a static state. It’s a process which keeps the variables of a system’s internal state within tolerable limits.)

]]> By: Jason http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2142 Jason Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:15:44 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2142 Actually, pattern recognition requires uncertainty as well. If you don't have uncertainty from new experiences, you will never form new patterns or refine old ones. You would essentially be static, and, as far as I know, there's only one way to be static, and that particular state is not something you can recover from :P Actually, pattern recognition requires uncertainty as well. If you don’t have uncertainty from new experiences, you will never form new patterns or refine old ones. You would essentially be static, and, as far as I know, there’s only one way to be static, and that particular state is not something you can recover from :P

]]> By: Mark http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2138 Mark Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:14:14 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2138 I've had that experience too John, as well as an even more confrontational feeling when I suddenly see a hole in my understanding that I was completely unaware of just moments before. Great post Jason, and something I've also thought about a lot, well before I started writing this blog. The concept of pattern recognition was probably my first exposure to psychology and neuroscience, many many years ago. I think the key distinction between the two concepts is that pattern recognition doesn't require a stage of uncertainty, whereas Piaget's theory does. Mind you there are a lot of critiques of Piaget's theories so it's possible that uncertainty is a common element, but not a requirement, in learning. Childlike, Jenny, but not childish :) And at least your questions aren't the unceasing barrage that children assault adults with ;) I’ve had that experience too John, as well as an even more confrontational feeling when I suddenly see a hole in my understanding that I was completely unaware of just moments before.

Great post Jason, and something I’ve also thought about a lot, well before I started writing this blog. The concept of pattern recognition was probably my first exposure to psychology and neuroscience, many many years ago. I think the key distinction between the two concepts is that pattern recognition doesn’t require a stage of uncertainty, whereas Piaget’s theory does. Mind you there are a lot of critiques of Piaget’s theories so it’s possible that uncertainty is a common element, but not a requirement, in learning.

Childlike, Jenny, but not childish :) And at least your questions aren’t the unceasing barrage that children assault adults with ;)

]]> By: Jenny http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2137 Jenny Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:35:34 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2137 Hah, hah! I'm not a child and I'm still asking "adults" about 20 questions a day in my attempt to assimilate and accomodate. Hmmm, does that make me childlike or childish? ;) I like these general overviews. Hah, hah! I’m not a child and I’m still asking “adults” about 20 questions a day in my attempt to assimilate and accomodate. Hmmm, does that make me childlike or childish? ;)

I like these general overviews.

]]> By: Jason http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2136 Jason Tue, 07 Aug 2007 16:00:29 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2136 Alright, then here it is... I might actually write more about it soon, too. It keeps coming up in my life and that's usually a sign that it's something I should write about. <a href='http://www.amiracleaday.com/articles/2007/07/23/pattern-recognition' rel="nofollow">Pattern Recognition</a> Alright, then here it is… I might actually write more about it soon, too. It keeps coming up in my life and that’s usually a sign that it’s something I should write about.

Pattern Recognition

]]> By: John http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2135 John Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:18:42 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2135 Nice to see a thought-out rationale as to how the process works. I know from experience that I don't move forward unless I get up on that edge and feel the butterflies in the stomach. Nice to see a thought-out rationale as to how the process works. I know from experience that I don’t move forward unless I get up on that edge and feel the butterflies in the stomach.

]]> By: Mark http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2132 Mark Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:54:15 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2132 Sure Jason, link away whenever you'd like :) I wouldn't be surprised if pattern recognition came up at some point in the lectures :) Sure Jason, link away whenever you’d like :)

I wouldn’t be surprised if pattern recognition came up at some point in the lectures :)

]]> By: Jason http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2131 Jason Tue, 07 Aug 2007 03:38:59 +0000 http://thewindingpath.net/2007/08/07/if-you-want-to-learn-embrace-uncertainty/#comment-2131 I know this concept as pattern recognition. I can post a link to an article I wrote about it, if you don't mind such things in the comments, but mostly I agree with you, I just explain it slightly differently, and more in terms of adults. I know this concept as pattern recognition. I can post a link to an article I wrote about it, if you don’t mind such things in the comments, but mostly I agree with you, I just explain it slightly differently, and more in terms of adults.

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